Complaints about the sound at Glade 2008

[leah]

Keep it concise and to the point. My letter is probably longer than it should be but I had to make myself clear.

mine's on the subject of the UK's expensive, dangerous and failing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 81582.html

drugs policy.

it will be a struggle to keep it short, but i know what you're saying...

[baldmosher]

drugs policy

My one of those is pretty expensive too but it's not dangerous.

[Beatmonkey]

drugs policy

My one of those is pretty expensive too but it's not dangerous.

[baldmosher]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-drugs-policy-has-no-impact-on-supply-881582.html

Fuckin hell, I just read that article, it cost £4bn to police and we still managed to spend £5.6bn on drugs in the UK. They might as well just give us £4bn worth of drugs in free handouts so that the country is £1.6bn better off as a net result, thus completely eliminating the need for criminals to get their cut and making the country a safer (and more chilled out, uninhibited and enthusiastic) place to live.

[shakyjane]

I'm just going to copy your letter baldmosher - it would just turn into an offensive rant if I tried

[baldmosher]

I'm just going to copy your letter baldmosher - it would just turn into an offensive rant if I tried

Please don't do that - TheyWorkForYou automatically scan and delete any copy and pasted letters to prevent mass spamming.

Make it personal to you. By all means use my ideas but please change the wording!

[shakyjane]

oh arse, that sucks

[shakyjane]

ooo I can send him an email:

Dear Jim,

Get the fucking sound sorted at Glade.

Yours sincerely,

Shakyknickers

[leah]

Fuckin hell, I just read that article, it cost £4bn to police and we still managed to spend £5.6bn on drugs in the UK. They might as well just give us £4bn worth of drugs in free handouts so that the country is £1.6bn better off as a net result, thus completely eliminating the need for criminals to get their cut and making the country a safer (and more chilled out, uninhibited and enthusiastic) place to live.

quite.

i think i'll start by writing a full blown essay then see if i can pare it down so i don't bore the arse off tessa.

bit off topic now, this thread. my bad.

[AndyMcScooter]

overkill was deafening? ... really? you sure about that??

oops! sorry - got tents confused...I meant that the main stage was pretty loud - saw the beginning of the orb's set - even the air was distorting due to their phat basslines! wow!

[phuboy]

I didn't attend this year after the Battle of the Somme.

I was dissapointed by the sound levels last year, but I put it down to the weather particulary in the Overkill tent (where I spent most the weekend).

But hearing that it was still quiet this year, its put me off going again. It's a piss take, as anyone who's been to a Bangface night at the Electrowerkz will know, its loud. Very very loud. Even if it can't be as loud as this, it needs to be as close as possible.

If it's out of the organisers hands, I'll find another place to go. I know that the festival is about more than just music, but the music is super important. I'm not going to enjoy it if it isn't loud enough.

Can't we just boot everyone off the Isle of Man?

[pd2h]

Why did the sound in Liquid "sound" so good?? Was the best of the whole weekend!!

[PaulX]

Why did the sound in Liquid "sound" so good?? Was the best of the whole weekend!!

Liquid Ross and Opus Jody are going to love you! See what they had to say from this post onwards: liquid-stage-cut-from-glade-2008-t5518-120.html#p78669

[Beatmonkey]

Haha, I actualy relyed what I could of that web conversation to you at glade phil while sat outside the liquid in the sunshine eat pie. The reality backed-up what they said on the forum so fairplay to them. It'l be intresting to know how much the liquid contributed to offsite bleed tho.

[baldmosher]

anyone who's been to a Bangface night at the Electrowerkz will know, its loud. Very very loud

Electrowerkz also sounds fucking terrible and the bass is almost non-existent. I'd sacrifice "loud" for "quality" any day of the year. And it was loud enough on Sat and Sun at this year's Glade anyway, once they'd got rid of the MCs......

There was an outdoor event near me last weekend and all I could hear from my house was the vocals and MCs, very loud and clear indeed. Loud enough to notice they were talking gibberish 90% of the time. Vocals carry a LOT further than the music.

Can't we just boot everyone off the Isle of Man?

Top idea!

[baldmosher]

By all means, write to your MP but I think we would be better off petitioning the local council and possibly even help the organisers by flyering the local neighbourhood to canvas for greater support for the festi and increased awareness of what Glade is really about.

Alternatively, we just wait to see how it goes next year. If Sat & Sun are anything to go by, I reckon they sorted it out by themselves. Simple answer is just to have the music on 10am-2am instead of 12pm-4am. Punters will adjust.

[shakyjane]

ERM NO! I won't adjust, that would be fucking shite that would. For many reasons that im not allowed to mention.

[G-BO]

i had an awesome time @ glade, wont be back next year as i want to travel, tho il be back in 2010!

sound was annoying on the friday for the best part, i made do and just got the head down and made the most of it, cant let it have you down considering the money paid, coulda been louder for the rest of the weekend but again it did get better on the saturday, was embarrasing during the bug when he first came on ya really do feel like u are being cheated out of your money , the rest of that evening was nothing short of exceptional and the sound level was suffice but cuda been a hell alot better, i by chance was at the right stack when mills played and thought it sounded brilliant, was strange reading reports on how low it was for others, ah well

if the ticket prices are gonna rise for any sort of reason next year it shud be to increase the sound volumes, its cheating people out of their money, going to bloc weekend made glade volume wise seem incredibly pathetic, il be going there and travelling next summer, hope the sound improves

[pesh]

Haha, I actualy relyed what I could of that web conversation to you at glade phil while sat outside the liquid in the sunshine eat pie. The reality backed-up what they said on the forum so fairplay to them. It'l be intresting to know how much the liquid contributed to offsite bleed tho.

i doubt it would have caused any more off-site sound problems as the SPL meters were placed in the FOH sound positions pointing dead ahead at the stage, it hardly matters what noise cancellation, if any, is going on in the surroundings areas if you are limited to a set level in the actual tent...
also Ans was going round the local villages with the environmental health officer identifing any stages that were a problem, Sancho Panza with it's open sided tent was identified as being a problem and was rectified allowing both Overkill and Breaksday to go back up to their maximum limit. Liquid with it's enclosed tent and additional sound deadening material round the sides never had any complaints. and it sounded the best
Opus, Frank, Plank and Jody FTW!

[shakyjane]

Pesh - in your opinion, should they stop using F1 rigs?

[pesh]

nah, they work very well with a lot of music, it's just a personal preference thing, i do think they should sack off the ambisonic nonsense thou

[fletcher]

ERM NO! I won't adjust, that would be fucking shite that would. For many reasons that im not allowed to mention.

I have thought about that idea a number of times - and i have to say it makes perfect sense to me.

Music from 10am until 2am would not make any difference to me, who cares what time headliners etc are on! As long as the music they play can be heard by everybody who is trying to enjoy it and nobody else then all is good

[baldmosher]

As long as the music they play can be heard by everybody who is trying to enjoy it

That's the only thing that matters to me. It could start at 8am and finish at 11pm and I wouldn't be too bothered. Just start partying earlier, no? Having said that, it's well nice to come out of a tent at 4am and only have an hour to wait before sunrise on Sunday.

Pesh, if they're limiting the volumes by measuring inside the tents then that seems to me to be because of overzealous H&S limits, i.e. designed to protect the hearing of poor clubbers, not to help the neighbours sleep. (I still think issuing free comfy foam ear plugs to all residents would be a good idea, I can't believe anyone is THAT bothered about wearing them for one weekend a year.)

I really don't understand what the limits are there for, and why they're measured the way they do, because it seems totally at odds.

If Ans was visiting the surrounding villages, was this to identify the levels to which individual stages needed to be limited? This would make sense.

[kai]

also Ans was going round the local villages with the environmental health officer identifing any stages that were a problem, Sancho Panza with it's open sided tent was identified as being a problem and was rectified allowing both Overkill and Breaksday to go back up to their maximum limit. Liquid with it's enclosed tent and additional sound deadening material round the sides never had any complaints. and it sounded the best
Opus, Frank, Plank and Jody FTW!

This to me is ecouraging for next year - if the lesson is learnt then simply don't have any open sided tents next year - least that way we can have Sat night's levels both nights - not as loud as we might like but hell of a big improvement if we dont get one of the nights partially ruined in some of the tents next year.

Ally this to a no-mc policy after midnight and reckon we're onto a winner - well maybe not as much of a winner as being able to blast it out all night, but a winner never-the-less.

Also, can we have the techno stage opening at 10pm like it did in 2007 - least that way the techno stage gets some time to get going before the noise police start their shit!

Appreciate thats not possible with the merged Glade and Vapor stage set-up and can see the reasons for doing this, but please don't!

[shakyjane]

But I love partying on until the early hours Rarely get that privilege