Decks!!!!!!!!!

[Hi-speed Dubbing]

I've been wondering if i should buy cd dex. Been using turntables since i was 13, done a set in feb and most all of the dj's were using cd's. Do i need to move on?

[Sperge]

I've been wondering if i should buy cd dex. Been using turntables since i was 13, done a set in feb and most all of the dj's were using cd's. Do i need to move on?

More and more DJs seem to be using them now, only the diehard turntablists insist on using vinyl for their whole set these days it seems.

I need to get a pair but the cost of Pioneer CDJ-1000s, which are basically the industry standard in clubs now, is pretty scary. I think I'll get a pair of Denons to learn on (maybe even some Numarks if I'm really skint) and maybe progress to the Pioneers later.

[Hi-speed Dubbing]

As you said it seems scarey. I'd feel as if am showing off id i used cd dex, strange. Just love techies; too loyal. Either that or a am shite dj

It boils down to supporting your local record store tae, i think digital and cd seems to betray this (from my small mind anyway)

[Hi-speed Dubbing]

I think am in the dark ages? I got the Red Planet back cataloge on digital download and to be honest i've never used any tracks to mix with its always been vinyl.

[Sperge]

It boils down to supporting your local record store tae, i think digital and cd seems to betray this (from my small mind anyway)

Yeah, but you can still do what Calla (shakyjane) and her dad do (they're both DJs). They still buy some vinyl and rip it to wav themselves off a Technics deck, then burn it to CD. Best of both worlds that way.

Oh, and don't forget to visit the GladTalk music store to buy the latest tunes at 320k mp3 or pure wav.

[Hi-speed Dubbing]

Why buy vinyl and rip it to cd to play out wae? Why not just play vinyl from -A to + Z

its tis the fun element.

[Beatmonkey]

Coz lugging about a crate of vinyl is fucking hassel, why bother when you can do everything you can on vinyl with CDs and not get back pain.

Personaly I still love my vinyl, still buy it, still mix with it and its nice to have a collection (Altern-8 Full on Mask Hysteria picture disk FTW)

However when I play out (not often) / at partys (more often) I take CDs as well as there are some tunes that are fucking wicked that have never seen vinyl/I can't afford them but have the artists album on CD. I don't have my own CD decks but tbh they are fucking simple to mix on, easier then vinyl, you just need to get someone to spend five mins with you showing you the controls.

[buzzingtalk]

well you use whatever makes the most sense to you as a DJ. jungle/drum n bass, mostly vinyl. but psytrance/hard dance is mostly digital cd/mp3 these days. im a vinyl fiend, i love it, but i also have some old skool cd decks, not rigged them up yet but will do once i move back home, ive used cd mixers before, i dont see which one is better except for certain genres where its normal to mix on either, if that makes snese.

reggae for example - someone mixing reggae with cds is a tool. 7" or STFU

[baldmosher]

Coz lugging about a crate of vinyl is fucking hassel, why bother when you can do everything you can on vinyl with CDs and not get back pain.

I see your back pain and raise you a portable head unit playing tracks off an 8GB USB stick.

[Beatmonkey]

reggae for example - someone mixing reggae with cds is a tool. 7" or STFU

Innit.

And 7", I have a few and I have to say, blutaked onto 12" is the only way I can mix with em pretty much, do I just not have a delicate enough touch? (oh and piano + violin break from elenor rigby = the best thing to mix in evar)

[quote]I see your back pain and raise you a portable head unit playing tracks off an 8GB USB stick.[/quote

To me a pair of cdj1000's is pretty much the perfect thing to mix off. They are easy to use workhorse cunts, well built, sound crystal clear and have plenty of toys (sorry, "creative tools") The interface isn't emulateing vinyl because tbh I think thats daft, vinyl works like vinyl, digital things work like digital things, what the CDJ1000 does is allow you to do the same sortof things you do with vinyl but easily translated into the digital domain. No other human -> music interface handles plain mixing with digital data better imo.

A cd collection (entirely backup of course, if its nicked then its only cost you the price of a few cdrs) isn't too much hassel to carry around. And then you have cds, a standard format, no need to rely on the infrastructure of laptops etc haveing to be pluged in. I also like being able to search through disks and put them on instead of folders and lists. Plus carrying a laptop around = a bitch, if you're just mixing and not utaliseing the laptop to do proper live stuff theres no point carrying one around.

[buzzingtalk]

reading this thread is like an emotional rollercoaster for me 6 weeks til i move home and live with my decks

yeah ive got a lot of ragga/dancehall 7s, also got a growing collection or 12s, a lot of it my mum kindly gave me, origional bob marley albums FTW!

rigby reggae if youve not heard it, by loo & placido, comes highly recommended to me. mix it with jungle sometimes too but you gotta be quick. to steady a hand i find getting a metal adaptor thats almost too big to fit in the middle helps, the plastic ones are ok on new vinyl but they dont offer the weght or support you often need with older 7s

on the subject though, does anyone know where i can get a case for 7"s? like a flight case but for likkle ones. cant seem to find them, guess they aint made anymore and will have to go second hand

[baldmosher]

(oh and piano + violin break from elenor rigby = the best thing to mix in evar)

I'm not the only one that thought of that!?! Damn.

I see your back pain and raise you a portable head unit playing tracks off an 8GB USB stick.

Plus carrying a laptop around = a bitch, if you're just mixing and not utaliseing the laptop to do proper live stuff theres no point carrying one around.

Agreed, and it looks a bit shit if you're playing tunes off a lappie. Who can tell if you're even mixing anything??

CDJ1000s will cost you a fortune for a pair (£400 each are they?) but a Numark MP3/WAV rack unit will cost you about £200 and weighs about as much as 30 CDs. Doesn't have the nice big jog platter of the CDJs but it's got two jog wheels, and a USB slot ffs!!

[Efflux]

Surely the fact the laptop weighs less than one deck means quite alot if you're carting shit around constantly.

[Beatmonkey]

Ahh you see but when I think about moveing everything around some decks in flightcases are the least of your worries if you've got bassbins to contend with.

[Efflux]

I spose but its making a difference overall.

[buzzingtalk]

this is a decks thread not another geigh laptop vs deck thread. keep your hating away

[teknon0tice]

Wanna get some musle? Ditch the laptop and become a heavyweight dj.

On another note, does anyone have this problem playing out? Theres a pair of cddecks and a pair of vinyl, only the vinyl always tend to be on the outside furthest from mixer, surley in all fairness it should be the other way around.
It can be a real bitch mixing out of arms reach.

[admin]

On another note, does anyone have this problem playing out? Theres a pair of cddecks and a pair of vinyl, only the vinyl always tend to be on the outside furthest from mixer, surley in all fairness it should be the other way around.
It can be a real bitch mixing out of arms reach.

One solution:

[teknon0tice]

If thats what it takes, then mabye.

I need Andrew Marr's arms.

Thats a man built for vinyl.

[Beatmonkey]

Hahahaha, I bet thats the first time thats ever been said about old marry boy.

[Twist]

does anyone have any recommendations for some direct drive entry-level decks? I've wanted to learn for years but lacked the confidence to try, but I've decided to stop being so rubbish and just have a go, and here's the perfect place to ask I reckon. it's like, I love dance music so much and if I could actually make people as happy dancing as I feel when I'm dancing, that would be one of the best things in the world.

Obviously nothing too extravagant, but something decent as if I buy cheap shit I'll only want to buy something better a few months down the line. I've been reading up loads the past few months but there's just so much out there. I've seen in this thread something about beginner sets with decks and a mixer, are these OK?

also is it preferable to start out on direct drive or get some practice in on belt drive first?

[pesh]

just look in cash converters for used technics, they're going for about £110 - £120 each these days

[teknon0tice]

Theres so many makes that do a good job now, I'd have thought anything around or above £100 per deck from Stanton, Techniques, Vestax ect would be a good starter of.
Its good start out with some slightly shoddy decks cos as soon as you can pull of a mix with them, then upgrade to a nice pair you suddenly find out your alot better than you thought you were.

[Twist]

thanks for the replies. I can't decide whether to go for one of the packs with mixer, headphones etc or get them secondhand separately - first options probably easier but less flexible, and I don't know what's shite and what's not.

plus the fact I'm skint as a bastard limits me a bit.

[Beatmonkey]

I got the numark battlepack (shittest numark direct drives, shittest numark mixer) second hand for about £150 I think, their peices of crap but they do the job. I've been djing on them for probs about 2 years now and as mentioned when I mix on 1200's I feel like a god.