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iTunes 'Genius'

Postby PaulX » 07 Nov 2008, 23:22

Apple haters go away please, this doesn't concern you. :upyours:

Has anyone tried iTunes Genius at all? I decided to finally install it and it's come up with some pretty good playlists from my collection, I'm quite impressed.

But I'm a bit concerned about the fact that all the data goes to Apple and is linked to my store account (which of course has my card details).

Now I couldn't give a monkeys about Apple knowing about my musical tastes, even if they flog them off to third parties. I can live with it. But I'm more concerned about them knowing what mp3s may have come from, ahem, "other places". You see, I'm pretty sure that every mp3 has a digital signature and ones you have ripped from your own CDs will be unique while ones that have been shared won't be.

What do others think? Could this be used to grass people up to the RIAA? :unsure:
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby aura » 07 Nov 2008, 23:38

I really hope not but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried something sneaky like that, so just incase I will never use it! I wish sometimes that I didn't have a Mac, i tunes is such a piece of shit.
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby PaulX » 07 Nov 2008, 23:44

aura wrote:I really hope not but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried something sneaky like that, so just incase I will never use it! I wish sometimes that I didn't have a Mac, i tunes is such a piece of shit.

I'm actually not finding iTunes so bad, despite all the horror stories I've been told.I don't like the way it buggers up your music folder, admittedly, but I got round that by putting the iTunes folder on my secondary hard drive.

I'm not actually using a Mac at home (yet). I use them at a lot of places I do sub-editing shifts at (some use Macs, some use PCs)and I'm planning on getting a Mac laptop (for DJing more than anything else).
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby aura » 08 Nov 2008, 00:00

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aura wrote:I really hope not but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried something sneaky like that, so just incase I will never use it! I wish sometimes that I didn't have a Mac, i tunes is such a piece of shit.

I'm actually not finding iTunes so bad, despite all the horror stories I've been told.I don't like the way it buggers up your music folder, admittedly, but I got round that by putting the iTunes folder on my secondary hard drive.

I'm not actually using a Mac at home (yet). I use them at a lot of places I do sub-editing shifts at (some use Macs, some use PCs)and I'm planning on getting a Mac laptop (for DJing more than anything else).


Yeah, may have been a bit harsh. The thing that REALLY annoys me is that it has a habit of re-arranging the track order of some albums and all the approved ways of correcting this don't always work!
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby ThE99THReDBallooN » 08 Nov 2008, 00:30

Sperge wrote:Apple haters go away please, this doesn't concern you. :upyours:

Has anyone tried iTunes Genius at all? I decided to finally install it and it's come up with some pretty good playlists from my collection, I'm quite impressed.

But I'm a bit concerned about the fact that all the data goes to Apple and is linked to my store account (which of course has my card details).

Now I couldn't give a monkeys about Apple knowing about my musical tastes, even if they flog them off to third parties. I can live with it. But I'm more concerned about them knowing what mp3s may have come from, ahem, "other places". You see, I'm pretty sure that every mp3 has a digital signature and ones you have ripped from your own CDs will be unique while ones that have been shared won't be.

What do others think? Could this be used to grass people up to the RIAA? :unsure:


yeah i liked the look of that aswell but this is the reason i didnt install it.
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby Magma » 08 Nov 2008, 00:43

Sperge wrote:Apple haters go away please, this doesn't concern you. :upyours:

Has anyone tried iTunes Genius at all? I decided to finally install it and it's come up with some pretty good playlists from my collection, I'm quite impressed.

But I'm a bit concerned about the fact that all the data goes to Apple and is linked to my store account (which of course has my card details).

Now I couldn't give a monkeys about Apple knowing about my musical tastes, even if they flog them off to third parties. I can live with it. But I'm more concerned about them knowing what mp3s may have come from, ahem, "other places". You see, I'm pretty sure that every mp3 has a digital signature and ones you have ripped from your own CDs will be unique while ones that have been shared won't be.

What do others think? Could this be used to grass people up to the RIAA? :unsure:


I've been thinking exactly the same thin and haven't switched it on. The majority of my record collection is legit, but that still leaves a fair bit of scope for a few that could feasibly land me in trouble. I'm leaving it alone....
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby laurennoodles » 08 Nov 2008, 00:57

i've never thought of that actually. i've only used it twice i think and wasn't that impressed so haven't really bothered with it. i generally want to listen to one artist at a time or if i want a mix i make a playlist so yeah.
also how can anyone not like itunes?? fair i'm a bit biased (i only ever used a pc at school, i've used macs since i was 6) but i can't think of anything that i would complain about? i've used windows media player a few times at mates and it just seems shit lol
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby Magma » 08 Nov 2008, 01:03

iTunes is nice on a Mac, but lots of us PC users get a bit frustrated with the Windows version... It used to be much worse and it made me stay away from iPods for ages... But I relented when the iPhone came out for free and it's actually fine now... Still prefer winamp (probably just familiarity... Creature of habit!), but it doesn't cripple your PC anymore.
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby PaulX » 08 Nov 2008, 11:32

I'm trying to find out exactly what data it sends to Apple. From what I've gathered on unofficial Mac forums, it just takes the tags. If that's all they're doing, people are being unduly paranoid.

But I need to scour the geek forums to see if anyone has analysed exactly what is in those packets.
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Re: iTunes 'Genius'

Postby baldmosher » 10 Nov 2008, 14:05

Isn't this just the same level of logic as Pandora and the same level of "spying" as Last.fm? As in not very much at all? And pretty pointless to my mind. Though I don't use iTunes and I don't use WinAmp any more as I prefer MediaMonkey.
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