What's gone wrong with Antiworld?

by **fuzzy** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:32

I get the feeling anti-world should have tried to walk before they can run.
the line up did look fantastic, and had i not been moving house i would have definitely been there.
It would be good if it was a 3,000 capacity festival. that would be such good fun, shame they tried to stretch themselves to much.
I know anti-world has a bad reputation in some circles, but i always though they had a hardened following, at least one large enough to hit 10,000.
bring on the glade, and muchos respect to those that make the wonderful diverse festival happen, its obviously hard work, as anti-world has proved.

by **adbar** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:32

spiralx wrote:this is no surprise given Antiworld's past history.

What do you mean about their past history?
Haven't been to one for ages but I've had a lot of really good nights at antiworld events.

by **salx** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:44

spiralx wrote:*resists urge to go I told you so*

Enrico does it again it seems...

well, no, not really. i mean, just the flyer itself looked unreal. people must be naiive or have huge expectations or just plain thick to not realise it's a case of throw enough mud & see if any will stick. hype is just hype.

@ stephane

yeah there were kids, not older kids though, unless you were reffering to the whole crowd, who seemed alot older than i'd expect, even compared to glade (pre 2005). i suspect some of the kids were with the crew.

it's a real shame, i would've thought that'd be antiworld who would put all their favourite psy acts into rock stardom & convert mainstream clubbers into a different scene. they should've started this off small, with a little (carefully chosen) sponsorship.

the site looked great from photos but once on it it was like landing on the moon. strangely, as most of the stewards disappeared & security was low-key, punters were pretty much left to their own devices but overall everyone were chilled despite some performance cancellations. i actually felt ALOT safer here than at last years glade.

by **El Topo** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:46

I'm looking for a DJ, if anyone could help it would be much appreciated. He played in the progressive tent from 7.30 to 9.00 on the sunday morning, and he played a blinding set of progressive trance, starting with that classic that goes "first there was darkness... then came strangers" from Dark City.

He was advertised as Otezuka, but the pics on the net look nothing like him, or any of the djs supposedly on that night. He had glasses and a shaved head.

by **wobblenut** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:49

spiralx wrote:I'm not gloating... but quite frankly, this is no surprise given Antiworld's past history.

Honestly?

by **stephane** » 09 Jul 2007, 13:04

Salx: Totally agree with you regarding security: I felt very safe; Hampshire police car patroling around site a few times on Friday night. Nothing to complain about security/stewards/people. They were all friendly. Friday evening had the feeling there was lots of 16-18 yo... Saturday was a lot older, with the good weather helping, I think there was quite a few "local" people just enjoying a day out (versus hardened club crowd), which was great. Clearly Antiworld has a bad reputation in the psytrance scene, very few colorfull hippies...

by **salx** » 09 Jul 2007, 13:20

oh well. could have been a thousand times worse, but with the lack of information & chinese whispers going round, if everyone knew the extent of the breakdown it could've been a free for all anarchy situation! or people were just to monged / stoned to care. funny how the MoD fire officer wernt told of the event so he was going round the site while we were stood there 3 hours waiting for wristbands. doh!!

by **ogriff** » 09 Jul 2007, 14:48

salx wrote: the MoD fire officer wernt told of the event so he was going round the site while we were stood there 3 hours waiting for wristbands. doh!!

Where was this event that the MoD fire officer was required?!

this weekend's legal rave is brought to you by the Ministry of Defence

:wacko:

by **Grob LeFrog** » 09 Jul 2007, 14:59

I heard that the sewage contractors dumped a whole load of sewage in the local river, so heath and safety shut it down - which is why it closed early.

Not sure of the truth of that rumour though - you know what the internet is like!

by **stephane** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:05

@ogriff:
It's was on MoD ground, so MP police car patroling around (outside) the area, I suspect it has to be check by MoD firemen (as part of Health & Safety - License).
But no MoD stall... would have been funny between the herbal high and the vegan food, a wonderfull stall "Want to go in Irak, join us here for free..."

by **Petch** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:18

I'm surprised by this as it sounds like an unmitigated disaster!

Antiworld certainly do not lack a customer base as they put firefly nights on up and down the uk. I must of received so many emails advertising the anti world festival, obviously because they were lacking tickets sales.

Maybe it is a sign of saturation as a post further up mentioned, what else could it be...

by **ogriff** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:30

stephane wrote:@ogriff:
It's was on MoD ground, so MP police car patroling around (outside) the area, I suspect it has to be check by MoD firemen (as part of Health & Safety - License).
But no MoD stall... would have been funny between the herbal high and the vegan food, a wonderfull stall "Want to go in Irak, join us here for free..."

Heh, cheers! Prob showing my naivety again, but I'd have thought the Government was quite low on the list of people to contact to put on a festival - are we running out of farmers?!?!

Saying that, if they put on a rave in the middle salisbury plain there could hardly be any complaints about the noise!

by **salx** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:32

i think many people like to buy tickets for events weeks, not months, beforehand. june being a washout put people off. it's not like that for glasto or other well established festies, but still, many events have tickets for sale very near the day. you could buy tickets on the gate at homelands, no doubt a few others too.

what is (was?) antiworld? psytrance acid techno prog trance mostly. why they needed to branch out when they're not a huge name in the first place i don't know.

have to say i'm surprised by what i'm reading on the horror-web, but i'm one of these people who just gets on with it. is it just me or do things start changing at any event from the middle towards the end, like, when you start hearing of goings on & things look less rosy?

by **alboot** » 09 Jul 2007, 17:00

i think it sounds like antiworld would have been fine if you were a psy trance fan, but lots of people who went for the other musicians listed have every right to feel totally pissed off. i would have been raging if id gone down from glasgow for it (as i was thinking of doing) as it sounds like they basically cancelled everyone i would have wanted to see.

by **JD Joe** » 09 Jul 2007, 18:39

Petch wrote:I'm surprised by this as it sounds like an unmitigated disaster!

Antiworld certainly do not lack a customer base as they put firefly nights on up and down the uk. I must of received so many emails advertising the anti world festival, obviously because they were lacking tickets sales.

Maybe it is a sign of saturation as a post further up mentioned, what else could it be...

Antiworld don't put Firefly nights on, Firefly do. Firefly put on some absolutely fantastic nights and mustn't be held in any way responsible for this mess. Even they were not properly informed of the situation and consequently had to cancel over 20 acts at short notice.

by **salx** » 09 Jul 2007, 18:42

alboot wrote:i think it sounds like antiworld would have been fine if you were a psy trance fan, but lots of people who went for the other musicians listed have every right to feel totally pissed off. i would have been raging if id gone down from glasgow for it (as i was thinking of doing) as it sounds like they basically cancelled everyone i would have wanted to see.

true, true. but it'd be very naiive to go to an event like this just for one type of music, especially if they're predominatly based on psytrance :wink:

. probably better off sticking to an event that caters for your tastes.

by **day-glow-joe** » 09 Jul 2007, 18:44

salx wrote:
alboot wrote:i think it sounds like antiworld would have been fine if you were a psy trance fan, but lots of people who went for the other musicians listed have every right to feel totally pissed off. i would have been raging if id gone down from glasgow for it (as i was thinking of doing) as it sounds like they basically cancelled everyone i would have wanted to see.

true, true. but it'd be very naiive to go to an event like this just for one type of music, especially if they're predominatly based on psytrance . probably better off sticking to an event that caters for your tastes.

well no, one of the whole things that made it look special was because the line up was so diverse, which is what made alot of people do a double take, cos of course antiworld is so associated with psytrance and hard dance

by **118girl** » 09 Jul 2007, 18:49

wobblenut wrote:
spiralx wrote:I'm not gloating... but quite frankly, this is no surprise given Antiworld's past history.

Honestly?

Had some truly shcoking nights with Antiworld (e.g. 3 hours cloakrooms queues, no water behind the bar from 11pm). Been told that on the sunday the first aid and security were told there wasn;t enough money to pay them so they walked out and thus it was shut down. THis was on top of all the sewage stuff. The festival was downsized the week before so stages such as Raindance then pulled out as they weren;t happy with the situation. As lots of stages were moved djs then couldn;t make their reassigned day. It could have been amazing, but after 3 years of planning you'd really think that having enough money to pay staff would be a consideration...

by **fletcher** » 09 Jul 2007, 20:05

118girl wrote:
wobblenut wrote:
spiralx wrote:I'm not gloating... but quite frankly, this is no surprise given Antiworld's past history.

Honestly?

Had some truly shcoking nights with Antiworld (e.g. 3 hours cloakrooms queues, no water behind the bar from 11pm). Been told that on the sunday the first aid and security were told there wasn;t enough money to pay them so they walked out and thus it was shut down. THis was on top of all the sewage stuff. The festival was downsized the week before so stages such as Raindance then pulled out as they weren;t happy with the situation. As lots of stages were moved djs then couldn;t make their reassigned day. It could have been amazing, but after 3 years of planning you'd really think that having enough money to pay staff would be a consideration...

i think that sums it up really! My flatmate works next to the site, he was planning on going.. when he reads this im sure he will be over the moon that he took my advice and chose Glade

by **nubble** » 09 Jul 2007, 22:11

Reading things like this really makes me want to cry at other peoples misfortune...

I'd of hated it if I'd have gone and not have been totally satisfied

by **day-glow-joe** » 09 Jul 2007, 23:46

I spoke to my friends tonight, they had fun, but I think there will be alot of people (namely staff) who must be devastated/furious

by **alboot** » 10 Jul 2007, 10:23

salx wrote:true, true. but it'd be very naiive to go to an event like this just for one type of music, especially if they're predominatly based on psytrance . probably better off sticking to an event that caters for your tastes.

what are you talking about salx? thast sentance makes no sense, how is false advertising somehow the fault of the consumer? were they supposed to magically know all the acts they wanted to see would be dropped?

by **scranner** » 10 Jul 2007, 10:51

ha ha 4 djs from saturday midday to cover the whole festival until sunday.

enrico has a habit of not paying anyone apart from the israeli royal family.

He has lost his house. tbh the way he has treated my firends in the past by not paying him, thats made me have no sympathy for the bastard.

anyway glade will prove to kick its arse

by **salx** » 10 Jul 2007, 11:12

alboot wrote:
salx wrote:true, true. but it'd be very naiive to go to an event like this just for one type of music, especially if they're predominatly based on psytrance . probably better off sticking to an event that caters for your tastes.

what are you talking about salx? thast sentance makes no sense, how is false advertising somehow the fault of the consumer? were they supposed to magically know all the acts they wanted to see would be dropped?

it's very simple, antiworld do psytrance, they have a history, & to go there as a techno purist to a mainly psytrance event then get all disgruntled that their specific favourites never played, is a bit off. most people who went did so with an open mind & wern't tied to one particular genre, may have been a bit dissapointed but the event still went on

it's not false advertising, those people were booked to play but cancelled last minute due to not being paid. i think i even said so myself that the lineup looked too good to be true but i still went out of curiosity, had a great time, depite wanting to see many of the techno artist aswell.

some people are extremely difficult to please it seems.

by **Barney Rubble** » 10 Jul 2007, 11:30

I have also heard stories regrding Antiworld events, I used to help out with a night called Baraka in Oxford which used to deal with Enrico and some of his guys back in the days at Tyssen Street in Dalston, I dont have hard evidence ie voice recordings and wire taps :lol:

but there was some dodgy stuff that sometimes went down.

This is just an opinion fro what I saw and heard from people, I know this could be chinese whispers and pure gossip but thought I should post

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